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Wow all this talk of Scots has done in the original question about Jubbilees but who cares only problem is there is no Scot for railworks.............Yet but there is a Patriot in the works!

The thread hijack continues

trafalgar45682 wrote: Bath Green Park also had a fill in turn for a Peak on the 10.49 arrival from Bath and the 11.49 return.

This explains something I'd never even realised was a query before I read it

In common with Patrick I still have some records ( more limited in my case) of actual engine workings from the beginning of 1963, although mine were usually from observations at the eastern end of Staple Hill tunnel or actually using the train (as I did on many occasions to go home for lunch from a morning's spotting at BTM).

The 1010 Bath GP to Bristol and 1149 return was a Green Park turn, but that depot never had an allocation of diesels. So why was a Peak appearing from time to time on the train? This now explains it.

As Patrick says, I recorded "Peaks" working this train on a few occasions, although more often than not it was steam hauled. I have the following notes for the 1149 ex-Bristol from the early days of 1963:

28 Jan - D164
29 Jan - 82043
30 Jan - 82038
31 Jan - 41209
8 Feb - 82004
13 Feb - D49
18 Feb - D91
21 Feb - 73049
4 Mar - D51
8 Mar - 82004
11 Mar - D158
12 Mar - D131
13 Mar - 82041
15 Mar - D67
18 Mar - D138
19 Mar - 82004
20 Mar - 82004
21 Mar - D164
22 Mar - D118
25 Mar - D149
26 Mar - D135
27 Mar - D83
28 Mar - D149
29 Mar - 82041
1 Apr - D124
2 Apr - 82004
3 Apr - 45674 (yes - this is correct and brings this post back on topic! )
4 Apr - D153
5 Apr - 82004

The entry for 3rd April 1963 is one that Alan can add to his list

Thanks for all the info in this topic - I was aware of the "Scot" on a local passenger train from Bristol to Bath GP, but thanks to Robin for the additional Jubilee reference and all the other locos.
Rather than carry on this topic I will initiate a fresh one asking about an ex-GW "Hall" on a local passenger - we have moved some distance away from "Jubilees"!

Its been so quiet around here this week that I thought of perhaps starting a thread called: "Lets All Join Hands And See If We Can Contact The Living" but then I thought better of it

Going back to the matter of large ex-LMS steam power in Bristol in the 1960s, I did mention in an earlier post that I seem to recall seeing the occasional Patriot - not the unrebuilt ones that were at Barrow Road, but the rebuild variety that came in from elsewhere.

Does anybody (I'm thinking of Patrick in particular) have any records of seeing one in Bristol in those days?

Robin wrote

I seem to recall seeing the occasional Patriot - not the unrebuilt ones that were at Barrow Road, but the rebuild variety that came in from elsewhere.

My earliest memory is of 45536 arriving in Bristol, probably in 1961/62, but I don't think I have the exact details. My records for 1964 show both 45530 and 45531 in Bristol.

45530 Sir Frank Ree

Wed May 13, 1964

4V44 5.50 Washwood Heath - Westerleigh
2M74 18.30 Bristol - Birmingham

Friday May 15, 1964

3M28 20.25 Templecombe - Derby (from Bath)
It would almost certainly have arrived at Bath on 3V17 Leicester parcels early that morning.

45531 Sir Frederick Harrison

Wed Sep 23, 1964

2H74 9.15 Bristol - Gloucester
2B74 16.18 Gloucester - Bristol

Thursday September 24

5M19 8.50 St Philips Yard - Water Orton

I have two photos of 45530 on 2M74 on May 13.


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Hello - I've only just belatedly read through this thread, Jubilees in and around Bristol? They were a feature of the Bristol scene from my first days as a spotter in the late 1940's until their demise. Many I believe came to Bristol Barrow Road straight from the works as new. Rooke, Kempenfelt, Leander where there in the 1950's. My next door neighbour was a driver at Barrow Road - Mr Len Bestwick. He took me around the shed on a Sunday quite a few times in 1948/49/50 before he transfered back to his home town of Long Eaton at Toton to a more senior link.
I recall riding with him on 'Rooke' whilst he moved her around the shed for servicing. So to add my confirmation to the answers that Jubilees were seen South of Mangotsfield - Yes many times and I believe throughout their service with the LMS and BR. Regards Phil H. Leura. Australia.

I have a few More shot of the route in the building: see if you can recognise where, artistic license used fully for some due my lack of 3D modelling skills:

Looks fabulous! Please keep these images coming There are certain people around St Philips who are very interested to see this recreation. Well done!

jules wrote:Looks fabulous! Please keep these images coming There are certain people around St Philips who are very interested to see this recreation. Well done!

And an ex-pat Bristolian living in Cambridgeshire

Just for Bob and Jules some more St Pips Shots:


The Yard.

A Famous view from Barrow Lane:




And My Favorite A Gangers View looking towards the shed and Coaling tower

tonyperks wrote:Just for Bob and Jules some more St Pips Shots:


The Yard.

A Famous view from Barrow Lane:




And My Favorite A Gangers View looking towards the shed and Coaling tower

Cheers Tony!

Very Best Wishes,
Bob.

Yep! Thank you - amazing views. I particularly like the houses in the background, even down to the tower block. How do you create these images BTW?

jules wrote:Yep! Thank you - amazing views. I particularly like the houses in the background, even down to the tower block. How do you create these images BTW?

The core is from Rail Simulators excellent Trainsimulator 2012 PC Game which through various evolutions from Kuju's Railsimulator then Railworks /2/and now Trainsimulator 2012, I have been Playing with it since summer 2009 and have slowly learnt some or maybe most of its quirks and foibles, This is one of my many routes i have built all local ones but so far I have onlt released one : the Dursley Branch available free here:
http://members.uktrainsim.com/filelib-d ... 9,cls=2797

Most of the buildings are generic buildings that come either with the core (uk)game or are from Rail simulator dot coms Falmouth branch route or thier new Woodhead routes, plus maybe some bits and bobs from UKTS.co.uk free ware providers, all I do is add the stock I want to the shots then take screen shots, export via Jpeg to photobucket.

My reference pictures are from the many Colin Magg's books and of course this very Bible of bristol railway history, and a healthy local knowledge of the area. However there is still a lot to do so far the route runs all the way from Bath to Barton hill Wagon shops completly laid and working signals, and from Mangotsfield to Yate and the Branch to Thornbury, also the section from Yate to chipping sodbury via Wapley sidings and the east cuvre at westerleigh.

So far I reckon I have maybe only 20% of the line side scenery in place so a lengthy job, trouble is i get carried away Driving or detailing areas i can find good pictures of!

I spent many hundreds of hours on Temple Meads during the 1950s and I never saw a Jubilee take a train forward, but from what others have written, this obviously took place relatively often.

What has always surprised me is that in 'Southern Mainline Cameraman' by W Philip Conolly, there is a photo of 45595 Southern Rhodesia running into Southampton Central from the east. It is captioned as a 'Preston to Weymouth pigeon special', and I have often wondered which route it took. I imagine that a Southern pilotman was on the footplate, as I am sure that no Midland crews would have signed off for this far south.

This is my first post, my having found the site by entering LHY949 into Yahoo! This was, of course, the prototype Lodekka!

Sorry, everyone, I forgot to give the date of Southern Rhodesia in Southampton. It was 4th September 1964.