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Entire area - Nuclear waste on city railways

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:47 pm
by AJR
Ref.: thisisbristol - 22 July 2006

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NUCLEAR WASTE ON CITY RAILWAYS

BY HUGO BERGER H.BERGER

Greenpeace has revealed that a train carrying nuclear waste travels through heavily populated parts Bristol three times a week. The group said the train carried the waste three times a week from Hinkley Point to Crewe.

On the way, the train passes through several stations in the area, including Highbridge and Burnham, Yatton, Nailsea and Backwell, Parson Street, Bedminster. It then goes on to Clifton Down, Lawrence Hill, Stapleton Road, Filton Abbey Wood, Bristol Parkway and Yate.

People living near Bristol Parkway were shocked at the frequency of the train journeys and the lax security surrounding them.

Matt Taylor, 36, a teacher, of Rock Lane, Stoke Gifford, said: "This is worrying. What if a terrorist attacked it or it derailed?"

Dave Griffiths, 70, who also lives in Rock Lane, said: "I used to be a fire officer so I know that these chemicals are sealed pretty safely inside these containers.

"But there is always the worst-case scenario and if this happens there could be a disaster."

Sue Wilson, 43, an officer worker of North Road, Stoke Gifford, said: "I knew they transported nuclear waste by train but I didn't know it went through the centre of the city. Are there not railway routes by less populated areas they could use?"

Ann Scott, of Thorn Close, Worle, said: "I was not aware it was being transported along the track.

"I know it goes on but I did not know it was so close.

"I am quite concerned it is on my doorstep as the rail track is only a couple hundred yards from my back garden.

"You hear of derailments, so it is quite concerning."

Following reports that a national newspaper had planted a fake bomb on a train carrying nuclear waste, the Office for Civil Nuclear Security (OCNS) and the company which transports the waste - Direct Rail Services - have now begun an inquiry into the incident.

Greenpeace said there were more than 1,000 nuclear transports through the UK every year.

A statement said: "The trains travel with minimal protection through commuter train centres and past hospitals, schools and back gardens.

"A terrorist attack or accident on a routine transport of nuclear waste in the UK could spread radiation over 100 kilometres, and cause over 8,000 deaths."

Greenpeace nuclear campaigner Sarah North added: "Hundreds of thousands of people in the UK are unwittingly exposed to the dangers of nuclear waste every week. Trains carrying radioactive waste trundle through the UK's villages, towns and cities every week - and we think the public has a right to know.

"So we've published a timetable of nuclear transports in the UK.

"The timetable is frighteningly easy to work out - just ask any train-spotter - and anyone could do it.

"So we're doing it first, to make sure the Government acts before terrorists do."

Greenpeace recently filmed a train carrying nuclear waste stopping and waiting at a passenger platform at a station in Worcester.

Ms North said: "Allowing nuclear trains is already grossly irresponsible, yet Tony Blair wants to build even more nuclear power stations, creating even more perilous radioactive waste."

Concern was sparked after the Daily Mirror described how a reporter wandered up to the unattended wagons at Direct Rail Services' Brent yard in north west London and placed a device on the train as it sat in sidings.

The reporter said his only identification as a legitimate rail worker was a fluorescent orange jacket and hard hat, on sale at any builders' merchants.

After the report was published, a spokeswoman for Direct Rail Services said: "Discussions with the OCNS have taken place over the event that happened on July 19 at Brent yard - a north west London depot.

"Direct Rail Services and the OCNS are aware of the circumstances outlined and clearly there are matters that require full investigation before any conclusions can be drawn or further comment made."

the flask !

Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 11:59 am
by tugboatcharly2
I notice the interest in the nuclear train travelling through this part of the world it has been doing so since the the first Hinckley point station opened and the only mishap to the train was a pair of wheels derailed in Gloucester south yard . May refer you to test when a diesel loco was deliberately crashed at 100mph a container which showed no sign of damage,but the loco completely disintegrated. If any terrorist tried to break in they would need a bigger bomb to succeed.

Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:53 pm
by BristleGWR

Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 3:08 pm
by mow
Greenpeace reveal that bears defacting in woods present hazard to health. Shock, Horror.

If nuclear 'waste' is transported by rail in a small, crowded island, then it is hard to see how the stuff is not taken near centres of population.

Re: Entire area - Nuclear waste on city railways

Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 5:43 pm
by simon
AJR wrote: On the way, the train passes through several stations in the area, including Highbridge and Burnham, Yatton, Nailsea and Backwell, Parson Street, Bedminster. It then goes on to Clifton Down, Lawrence Hill, Stapleton Road, Filton Abbey Wood, Bristol Parkway and Yate.

blimey that's an interesting route - Bedminster to Clifton Down I know its a long time since I lived inBristol but when did that route get built?

On a more serious note it is a highly irresponsible bit of propaganda by Greenpeace given how they got the government to destry a class 46 all those years ago..

Nuclear Trains

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 10:21 pm
by Bartonhillbum
Good Evening :D :D
Anyone any news on timings of these trains ?
As I have to do an article for 'Grassroots' a community newspaper that is curculated within the NDC area of Bristol (Barton Hill, Lawrence Hill, Redfield, The Dings) so far all everyone does is pass me on, when I ask questions of the relevant 'Authorities'. :cry:

With regards to the route from Bedminster to Clifton Down & then Clifton down to Lawrwence Hill Stapleton Road etc.. what happend to Montpelier :idea:

Simon, it just goes to show how out of touch the local (?) reporters are. No-one commented in the letters section of the 'Post, unless of course it was never printed as it was judged not being of local intrest.


Bartonhillbum

Recycled news!

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:45 am
by horace
Another Green peace panic. I remember the same story coming out a few years back. This is green peace recycling old news. Well i suppose it is more environmently friendly to use the old news sheets and just change the date, saves new paper. Sorry for the complacency but this has been going on for years and years and as yet i do not know of anybody turning green or suchlike due to it. I mean just think how much radiation comes off of all thise luminous watches passing with every train that goes by.

Green peace should start presenting reasonable arguments, they might get more support that way, rather than resort to hype like this.

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 7:22 pm
by John Ball
Many people don't like nuclear power, and I respect their views, but it doesn't alter the fact that we have it, and consequently there is nuclear waste that has to be transported whether we like it or not.

The hard fact of the matter is that rail is safer than road transport for this. I see no point in Greenpeace making a fuss about rail transport of the stuff, when they'd fuss even more about it going in a lorry down the High Street.

John

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:43 pm
by dragonryder
John Ball wrote:Many people don't like nuclear power, and I respect their views, but it doesn't alter the fact that we have it, and consequently there is nuclear waste that has to be transported whether we like it or not.

The hard fact of the matter is that rail is safer than road transport for this. I see no point in Greenpeace making a fuss about rail transport of the stuff, when they'd fuss even more about it going in a lorry down the High Street.

John
too right, this stuff needs shifting, whats the other alternative ferry it about in the traffic on a lorry, wake up people, much safer by rail.
anyway, im sure as everyone else has said the containers are tested to destruction, and should one come off the rails no harm would come.

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:12 pm
by MKC
does anyone know the days/times for this now? i'm hoping to see some chopper/tractor action 8)

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:23 pm
by Mitch
If the locals are worried about the ultra-safe transportation of nuclear waste through Bristol, it's a good job they don't know about the stuff we worked through the city during the Faulklands war, en route to Plymouth.
Those trains were accompanied by heavily armed soldiers....
Andy

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:03 pm
by horace
Not half as much as was carted to Fairford for the waiting B52's in the latest of Georges forays into other peoples countries.

nuclear through bristol

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:43 pm
by tugboatcharly2
Whats the panic? I personally drove the train from Bridgwater and nobody cared about my welfare or my mates who drove on a regular basis its a pity that that green peace rabble couldn't"t find some thing better to do than frighten people. Its over "40 years" now that the train has been running with only a minor derailment in Gloucester south yard on a pair of points which were not closed correctly by a shunter, how do I know? I was there.

Nuclear Waste in Clifton Down

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:39 pm
by jules
Of course the journo erroneously inserted Clifton Down into the route.

Far more likely to cause shock horror if they can include "Clifton" in their irresponsible and inaccurate scare-mongering.

He should have gone all the way - something along the lines of "Nuclear Bomb Threat under The Downs".

Hey, they could even fire the missile up the ventilation shaft by the zoo :D

Re: Nuclear Waste in Clifton Down

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:02 am
by stumpytrain
jules wrote:Far more likely to cause shock horror if they can include "Clifton" in their irresponsible and inaccurate scare-mongering.
I guess they dreamt up Clifton as being in the booked route after the train was diverted that way during the Filton resignalling!

Alex