Turkish 2 8 0's to arrive at Portbury

[bristolian]

Thanks for showing them!

[jules]

So these are the new trains the government has been talking about!

[bristolian]

So these are the new trains the government has been talking about!

Indeed, good 'ole Black 8s

[Sodbury Box]

Well done Pete !
So are they both heading for G & WR do we know ?

[bristolian]

Well done Pete !
So are they both heading for G & WR do we know ?

I've read somewhere that one of them may be going to Barry...

[antnee]

One Consul to Barry? Just nearly 40 years on But hopefully to be rebuilt! As I recall Barry have the Fowler tender is which is being rebuilt for the new build Patriot "the Unknown Warrior"

I wonder if the 8F rebuild will be done at the same time?
Good the Locos have arrived safely I was not able to get up there due to the weather so good to see the pics. They looked much less forlorn in the sidings in Turkey, perhaps it was because the sun was shining.

[crayzy_ray]

Does anybody know if they are visible from a publicly accessible area, or alternatively what time they are expected to be moved on the 7th?

[23E]

Well done Pete !
So are they both heading for G & WR do we know ?

I've read somewhere that one of them may be going to Barry...

[bristolian]

Well done Pete !
So are they both heading for G & WR do we know ?

I've read somewhere that one of them may be going to Barry...

As has been mentioned elsewhere in the not-too-distant past, extremely reliable sources, known to the writer, at Toddington have already advised that neither 8F is currently destined to end up there.

Further to that, the reason why the various events of past months had initially been veiled in so much secrecy û and which several contributors to various discussion forums, including this one, clearly still retain so much difficulty in appreciating û was due to the importance in not ærocking-the-boatÆ, whilst negotiations with the Turkish authorities were not entirely concluded.

The rumour that 45170 ômight go to Barryö currently remains just that - a rumour. Nevertheless, as most readers are aware, spokesman Chris Brooks has intimated that the group proposes to retain only 45166 and that details of the future of 45170 will be released in due course.

It may well be the case that those final decisions for the futures of the locos, whether this be in respect of their planned homes, or even down to the specifics of liveries and numbering, have not yet been made and no amount of pressuring the guys concerned will produce anything at all, until such time as firm plans are finalised. Therefore, might I conclude by respectfully suggesting that, given that the purchasing consortium has already prepared and issued to the railway press an extremely comprehensive and informative first statement, the group clearly possess valid reasons for their current non-disclosure of every single other aspect of their proposals and that we should all just wait and see what transpires?

We are not dealing here with the sort of mentality that, one might argue, seems to prevail on the premises of a certain Northern locomotive operator and I feel confident that we shall all be put very much in the picture in the fullness of time.

Thanks for your post Alan.

Very Best Wishes,
Bob.

[23E]

[bristolian]

Hello Alan,

Thanks for the update - please keep us informed .

Very Best Wishes,
Bob.

[carpetcone]

Well done Pete !
So are they both heading for G & WR do we know ?

I've read somewhere that one of them may be going to Barry...

As has been mentioned elsewhere in the not-too-distant past, extremely reliable sources, known to the writer, at Toddington have already advised that neither 8F is currently destined to end up there.

Further to that, the reason why the various events of past months had initially been veiled in so much secrecy û and which several contributors to various discussion forums, including this one, clearly still retain so much difficulty in appreciating û was due to the importance in not ærocking-the-boatÆ, whilst negotiations with the Turkish authorities were not entirely concluded.

The rumour that 45170 ômight go to Barryö currently remains just that - a rumour. Nevertheless, as most readers are aware, spokesman Chris Brooks has intimated that the group proposes to retain only 45166 and that details of the future of 45170 will be released in due course.

It may well be the case that those final decisions for the futures of the locos, whether this be in respect of their planned homes, or even down to the specifics of liveries and numbering, have not yet been made and no amount of pressuring the guys concerned will produce anything at all, until such time as firm plans are finalised. Therefore, might I conclude by respectfully suggesting that, given that the purchasing consortium has already prepared and issued to the railway press an extremely comprehensive and informative first statement, the group clearly possess valid reasons for their current non-disclosure of every single other aspect of their proposals and that we should all just wait and see what transpires?

We are not dealing here with the sort of mentality that, one might argue, seems to prevail on the premises of a certain Northern locomotive operator and I feel confident that we shall all be put very much in the picture in the fullness of time.

23E You have displayed a large amount of "double standards". I read your posting on another forum where YOU were asking for any information that other people had ref these locos back in September!!

So, please remember that most people reading these forums are just interested enthusiasts.

You are not judge and jury......if people want things kept secret, then the best way is to say NOTHING.

[23E]

[carpetcone]

You said this a few paragraphs above:
"Further to that, the reason why the various events of past months had initially been veiled in so much secrecy û and which several contributors to various discussion forums, including this one, clearly still retain so much difficulty in appreciating û was due to the importance in not ærocking-the-boatÆ, whilst negotiations with the Turkish authorities were not entirely concluded."

That comment was completely at odds with what you posted on the National preservation dot com forum on 24th Sep:

"As the 'cat is now (almost) out of the bag' and all negotiations are, presumably, finally concluded with TCDD, perhaps the time is also ripe to publicly share any other new info, that is known to be reliable, that anyone else might have?"

Double standards in my opinion. I may be the only Bristol forum member to question your comments but there were comments on Nat Pres at the time you posted yours.

You cannot question why others were asking questions when you so clearly were asking ones yourself!

[simon]

Whilst this forum is one of the less busy ones, it is one of the more friendly ones. I for one quite like it that way.

It would be a pity if we were to see an influx of 23Es type on to this forum and it become like nat pres.