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"The route between BPW and STJ is closed today. It's probably the
diverted fuel tanks fom Theale running via Bath, BPW and Gloucester.
<BJ>
> In an unusual move, a grey liveried, Petroleum stickered 60
> has just come up from Bristol TM at 15:30 on a rake of Murco tanks
> and seems to be entering the loop at Parkway. Presume
> it will run round to head back to S Wales.
>
> Dave H
> Bristol"
Although It would seem likely I would doubt it as its a dangerous goods train its not permitted under the new deal for ews traincrewfor it to be runround there.What I would guess is it was going via charfield and gloucester via awre to regain its booked route at severn tunnel junction .Yes it is a very bizzare route for it to take but this is ews your talking about anything to stop a shunter doing his proper job .
Yep, it was 6B33; she went in to the Up Reception for regulation purposes before running to Wales via Charfield (tunnel blocked all day by engineers occupation).
I wasn't aware that dangerous goods trains can't be run round at Stoke, why not? I would've thought the main reason was that there aren't actually any shunters based there anymore. In any case it's much easier to route the train via Bath and save running round!
For those that get turned on by freight trains, 6S55 has languished at Stoke on the Down Reception since Saturday morning. No forward driver... the joys of sectorisation!
stopblock wrote:Although It would seem likely I would doubt it as its a dangerous goods train its not permitted under the new deal for ews traincrewfor it to be runround there.What I would guess is it was going via charfield and gloucester via awre to regain its booked route at severn tunnel junction .Yes it is a very bizzare route for it to take but this is ews your talking about anything to stop a shunter doing his proper job .
Why all of a sudden is running round a train of highly flamable liquid dangerous, as the practice has been undertaken for the last 50years at least with no recorded incident e.g. mass explosions. I would imagine there is a greater risk undertaking it with a steam loco. And more to the point what difference does it make where you do it, it will still go bang wether you do it in Wales Stoke Gifford or Timbuktoo
So to run round the tanks do they...
a. spray the loco with water as it passes the tanks to prevent a spark
b. run it out to severn tunnel jct up to Gloucester and down to Stoke Gifford to tag on the other end?
I've just read stopblock's posting again and perhaps it's that dangerous goods trains can't run round without a shunter? Though I'm puzzled that if it's safe for a 'normal' train to run round without a shunter that it would be any different for a dangerous goods!
Sorry for any confusion what I ment to say is under the new traincrew deal drivers can now uncouple and run round trains themselves subject to certain agreed arrangments such as an enhanced brake test being carried out from its point of origin and the location being authorised for driver only runrounds. As this was a dangerous goods train its not permitted for a driver only runround so a shunter has to be provided and as mr heller dosent like us shunters he would rather divert a train many miles then have a shunter or groundstaff as we are known touch it .
Oh and as stated the tunnel was shut too but thats just an excuse .
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