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Sea Mills Satation "for sale" ... !

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Why can't the morons at "The Post" *ever* report accurately and professionally on *anything* even slightly involving railways?

http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/Fancy-of ... story.html

This is one of the most atrocious items of bad journalism they have come up with in at least the last few weeks!

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Although the route is still in use, the station buildings have not been open to the public for several years and have been converted into offices.
Er, the buildings haven't been open to the public since the late 1960s!

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There are campaigns to reopen several stations in Greater Bristol, but Stoke Bishop is not among them.
As we all know, Stoke Bishop has never had a station, so how can there be a campaign to reopen it? The station in question is called Sea Mills, though actually it is in Stoke Bishop (just), but it is still very much "open".

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We have been instructed by the landlord to market the ground and lower ground space.
Totally contrary to the very first line of the article, which states: "ONE of the most unusual offices in the Bristol area has just been put up for sale on the open market". Er, no it hasn't! The article is now saying the ground floor is for lease from the "landlord" - hardly the building being "put up for sale on the open market"!

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fronts on to the main rail line with hourly services into Temple Meads every 20 minutes.
Hourly services into Temple Meads every 20 minutes? Just what is this supposed to mean? Oh and there's that "into" word again (posts passim!)

Honestly! Bristol deserves a better newspaper than this incompetent little rag full of nonsense .. Perhaps this is because it's Bank Holiday Monday, they must have the intern manning the news room :D
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jules wrote:Honestly! Bristol deserves a better newspaper than this incompetent little rag full of nonsense.
I'm not being awkward but you could always read a different newspaper. <BJ>
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He said: "We have been instructed by the landlord to market the ground and lower ground space. The unique selling point is the fact that the building adjoins the Temple Meads to Severn Beach railway line so has some of the greenest transport credentials on the market. It's ideal for businesses seeking an unusual and classy address with ultra-convenient public transport connections."


I see the word lease nowhere!!!
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To be fair, its not just the Evening Post in isolation that does this sort of thing, its the media in general.

Whenever I have read a news story that I actually knew something about, or affected me personally in some way, it has never been quite 100% accurate. The press is there to sell papers, and most of their income comes from advertising anyway, and the readers are just an irritating nuisance that they have to put up with otherwise they wouldn't get the advertising revenue.

I have read some beauties in my time, such as "The Thornbury branch fell victim to Beeching's Axe" Presumably he had this axe when he was in short trousers and before British Railways was invented, let alone the BRB...

Unfortunately, the vast majority of the readers couldn't give a toss about the details - indeed, it has been said that many of them don't read beyond the headline in many cases. On the other side of the coin, some poor sod in the news office has been told to cobble a piece together about this, whilst his editor is also screaming at him about the court reports and the coverage of the puncture-mending festival that he's supposed to have ready in 20 minutes. So no time or inclination to check the details. just bung something together that looks plausible and move on to the next job.

If you want to read accurate reporting about railway-related issues, you're better off looking in the specialist press. But even they make cock-ups sometimes. Alan Hireson will give you a few examples if you ask him nicely :)
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I see the word lease nowhere!!!
We have been instructed by the landlord to market the ground and lower ground space
I read lease. Landlords lease things out. And "market the space" is hardly the same as "put up for sale". We can therefore only draw the likely conclusions here ...
Unfortunately, the vast majority of the readers couldn't give a toss about the details - indeed, it has been said that many of them don't read beyond the headline in many cases.
I am thinking I will soon adopt that as my strategy too - it's just too painful otherwise!
On the other side of the coin, some poor sod in the news office has been told to cobble a piece together about this, whilst his editor is also screaming at him about the court reports and the coverage of the puncture-mending festival that he's supposed to have ready in 20 minutes.
Nothing like doing the job properly, eh? Time once was when The (Evening) Post actually had a newsroom - and sufficient decent reporters. I feel sorry for them nowadays ...
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I would beg to differ, the word market to me means sale. (to place ones house on the market) The word landlord to me means some one that owns more than one property. ( the landlord of acme properties decided to market (sale) some of his holdings) Therefore I read that the owner of multiple properties has decided to sale some or bits of them.

From the Oxford english dictionary

verb (markets, marketing, marketed)
[with object]

advertise or promote (something): the product was marketed under the name æaspirinÆ
offer for sale: sheep farmers are still unable to market their lambs
[no object] US go shopping for provisions: then I have to go uptown and market



Pedantic ehh!!!
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jules wrote:
Robin Summerhill wrote:On the other side of the coin, some poor sod in the news office has been told to cobble a piece together about this, whilst his editor is also screaming at him about the court reports and the coverage of the puncture-mending festival that he's supposed to have ready in 20 minutes.
Nothing like doing the job properly, eh? Time once was when The (Evening) Post actually had a newsroom - and sufficient decent reporters. I feel sorry for them nowadays ...
I have been reading journalistic cock-ups in the Evening Post and indeed other papers since I first picked one up. That was probably around 1960 ;)
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Pedantic ehh!!!
Nothing wrong with pedantry :D If The Post had some, maybe they wouldn't publish such confusing stories.

To me, something that is for lease (as well as something for outright sale) can be "marketed" ... as in the advertised or promoted sense - "The new office suites are being marketed by X Co" - this doesn't mean they are going to sell the freeholds.

So, if we really want to settle this one, perhaps we should just contact the agent and ask them. My bet is still that it is for lease ...

Loser buys the first beer at the upcoming BRA pub meeting? :twisted:
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Funny that - in my last post instead of "marketed by X Co" that now appears, I used three consecutive letter x - here is what happens:

"marketed by spamming twat co".

Hope this doesn't automatically get me barred from the forum!
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You win, they are for let
Well, I take little pleasure from winning :) Maybe I have just suffered The (Evening) Post longer than you have Horace ...

So, will you be at the October pub meeting? I won't hold you to it as the challenge wasn't accepted in advance of the answer being found :D
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Now that's one I will argue, I have suffered the Evening Post for over 50 years, in fact I delivered the damn thing for many years in the mid sixties. As to whether I can get to buy a pint, i would like to come to the BRA meet one day, but from Salisbury it is rather a long way.
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At least in the 60s and 70s, The "Evening" Post was half decent. It had a few good journalists back then if I recall correctly ... a shadow of its former self nowadays.

Would be good to see you at the Barley Mow, of course. Perhaps we should hold it earlier in the evening so that those from slightly further away could get home?
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Here we go again - from The "Evening" Post:
The tale of the Bristol Zoo parking attendant has caught the public imagination once again, circulating on the internet like wild fire.

The story û an urban myth dating back to 2009 û tells of a Zoo parking attendant who supposedly lined his own pockets with customers' cash for 23 years before going missing with the loot.
2009? Er, I first heard this "story" in the early 1980s. Perhaps if they employed sufficient bodies to produce a newspaper, The Pest could start with some proper Bristolians?

I wonder, when did other people here first hear of the Bristol Zoo parking attendant?
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