Bath Road based Class 08s in 1970

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Bath Road based Class 08s in 1970

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I'm really hoping that someone can help me!

I'm building a model of the maintenance shed at Bath Road as it was in May 1970 (pre TOPS) and I'm trying to find some info as to Bath Road based Class 08 shunters at this time - Particularly which ones were in blue and whether they were dual braked etc.

I've been trying for ages and I'm getting nowhere!

Any help would be very much appreciated

Yours expectantly and hopeful!!

Clarky
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I'm afraid I can't help with numbers, but I am pretty sure most if not all were dual braked by 1970. They were mostly semi-permenantly coupled to "shunting runner" wagons - mainly I think to improve track circuit operation as well as providing storage for shunting poles etc.
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Post by jules »

Here's an historic one for you :D

13002: British Rail Class 08.
Built: Derby 1952.
Renumbered to D3002: 1959.
Withdrawn: Bristol Bath Road, July 1972.
Sold to Foster Yeoman: December 1972.

I seem to remember D4018 at TM too, later 08 850 and still in existence on NYMR?
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Andrew wrote:I'm afraid I can't help with numbers, but I am pretty sure most if not all were dual braked by 1970. They were mostly semi-permenantly coupled to "shunting runner" wagons - mainly I think to improve track circuit operation as well as providing storage for shunting poles etc.
I think you are refering to the class 03s that were based at Bath Road?
Sorry if i'm wrong, it was a long time ago!
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Post by Robin Summerhill »

Although I was on the railway in 1970, and transferred to Bath Road in April 1971, I must admit that diesel shunters were not exactly at the top of my list of interesting things to observe :)

The closest data that I have is in an October 1966 Locoshed book, and 82A's class 03 and 08 shunters were as follows at that time (all pre-TOPS numbering so those of you who only work with post-TOPS numbers will have to do your own research!)

Class 03
D2195 only - presumably there to work Avonside

Class 08
D3000/1/2/3, D3182/3/4/5, D3503/5/6/7/8, D3750/1, D3803/5/6, D4015/7/8/20/2/4/5/6 - total 26

I'd forgotten there were so many of them built :)
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An 03 was regularly outstationed at Lawrence Hill to work the Avonside branch. See here: http://bristol-rail.co.uk/wiki/File:D2121-1.jpg

03's were frequently paired with match wagons as they were well known for not operating track circuits too well, though I only have vague recollections of ever seeing this at TM.

One of the seemingly continuous duties for an 08 at TM up until the early 70's was shunting wagons in and out of the old TM goods depot on the steeply graded spur next to Platform 1. It went on all day (and probably all night too).
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carpetcone wrote:
Andrew wrote:I'm afraid I can't help with numbers, but I am pretty sure most if not all were dual braked by 1970. They were mostly semi-permenantly coupled to "shunting runner" wagons - mainly I think to improve track circuit operation as well as providing storage for shunting poles etc.
I think you are refering to the class 03s that were based at Bath Road?
Sorry if i'm wrong, it was a long time ago!
I am 99.9% certain at least some of the 08s had match wagons. I mainly remember seeing 03s at Lawrence Hill
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The 08"s and the 03 at Bath road depot

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The 03 had a wagon attached to operate the track circuits.
The 08"s had a brake van attached for use of the shunters.
The workings for the pilots at Temple meads were as follows.
The west end pilot known as the upside pilot worked 24 hours seven days a week.This pilot was assisted by an additional loco which worked in the evening went to shed about 02-00hrs.
The down side pilot was also 24 hrs
if you need more about the turns i think i can remember most of the workings
Incidently when i went to Bath rd in January 1950 the pilot link at Temple meads the loco "s were steam 55xx and 77xx types.
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Andrew wrote:
carpetcone wrote:
Andrew wrote:I'm afraid I can't help with numbers, but I am pretty sure most if not all were dual braked by 1970. They were mostly semi-permenantly coupled to "shunting runner" wagons - mainly I think to improve track circuit operation as well as providing storage for shunting poles etc.
I think you are refering to the class 03s that were based at Bath Road?
Sorry if i'm wrong, it was a long time ago!
I am 99.9% certain at least some of the 08s had match wagons. I mainly remember seeing 03s at Lawrence Hill
Hello Andrew - you might like these:-

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08 shunters at bath road.

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There was also 2 -08"s shunting at temple meads high level yard and the low level into the goods shed both turns were on going for 24 hours i hope this info helps about the hard work that these locos put in.
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Post by simon »

This was taken in Jan 72 :

http://bristol-rail.co.uk/wiki/File:Ash ... ction5.jpg

maybe a bit later for your model?
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simon wrote:This was taken in Jan 72 :

http://bristol-rail.co.uk/wiki/File:Ash ... ction5.jpg

maybe a bit later for your model?
A hint of a nice OMO-liveried RE of WE depot on the extreme right :).
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Post by Andrew »

OF COURSE! The O8s had brake vans, the 03s had match wagons. Apologies for being so emphatic earlier that O8s had match wagons - and thanks to "Oldchapie" for pointing this out. My memory has started playing tricks on me!!
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Thank you - yes! I didn't know about this site!!

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Post by stantheman »

Andrew wrote:OF COURSE! The O8s had brake vans, the 03s had match wagons. Apologies for being so emphatic earlier that O8s had match wagons - and thanks to "Oldchapie" for pointing this out. My memory has started playing tricks on me!!
Isn't this an 08 with shunter match wagon?

www.flickr.com/photos/bristolsteam/5560 ... hotostream
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